Steam Bans An Adult Visual Novel, Gamers Argue About Underage.....You Know Where This Is Going

Some quotes from the article linked by OP:

From the devs:

Some visual novel fans believe Steam may be purposefully targeting not just adult visual novel titles, but MangaGamer in particular. Games journalist Benny Carrillo claimed Steam pulled yuri (or woman-loving-woman anime) visual novel The Expression: Amrilato by misleadingly claiming the game “sexualizes minors.” While Carrillo acknowledged the game features a censored topless bath scene with a 17-year-old character that could technically meet Steam’s rule against material that “sexualizes minors,” other games with similar or more explicit sexualized depictions of underage characters—such as Gal\Gun* and Akiba’s Trip: Undead ＆ Undressed—have not faced removal from Steam.

At the time, MangaGamer implied the issue was rooted in homophobia against lesbian relationships. “[T]he only conclusion we can draw from the feedback we’ve been provided with is that Valve now considers chaste romance between two women inherently ‘sexual’ and thus inappropriate for all audiences outside an adult context,” MangaGamer public relations director John Pickett said of the situation, according to Carrillo’s article.

Here's the quote from Valve:

After contacting Valve for comment, Valve’s Vice President of Marketing Doug Lombardi said Bokuten was removed after discovering an external patch that activated adult scenes with underage characters. “In our initial content review, we missed content hidden in the game’s depot that features adult content with underage characters,” Lombardi told the Daily Dot. “While not accessible in the game itself without an externally acquired patch, we were distributing that content depot through Steam, therefor[e] the game would not have passed our content review. We’ve notified the developer, and improved our content review process to avoid this in the future.”

So...pretty clear that Valve removed it because users could enable "adult content with underage characters." The devs went on to dispute this fact but didn't deny the underage content, just that users has to download it from outside of Steam....which Valve clearly doesn't care about.

Anyways...enter Reddit to debate the topic!

Here's the full thread

And on to the...erm...debate!

Well 16 in the majority of the world is legal so

People fucking complain if you change the age by 1000 years. They are entirely unwilling to engage with the plain fact that art is art, not reality....

Which is a drawing and not a real person. I think that anyone should be willing to acknowledge their sexual feelings so long as they understand where the line is, and realise what cannot be done in real life.

This user compares an official patch put out by the devs to the potential of a "loli Skyrim mod" that would be created by a third party and argues that Skyrim should receive the same treatement.

Same argument from this user

BUT SKYRIM!!!

(Side note...there seem to be a lot of users who are very knowledgeable about these Skyrim mods, I keep finding more)

These users debate the meaning of the word censorship

How about who gives a shit because they’re made up drawings in a video game?

Is Life Is Strange 2 meant to be fapped to?

You don't find being attracted to a depiction of a minor concerning at all?

(Response: No not really) EDIT: This one got moderated but here's the removeddit for it https://www.removeddit.com/r/Games/comments/i10vid/_/fzudxdq/

There are discussions that the devs should have just stated somewhere in the game that the high schoolers being depicted are actually 18....or wait...19 just to be safe.

18 is still illegal in some places. 19 is the safe place to push the ages to but then they can't be high schoolers. I remember a game with 14-15 year olds that was localized which aged them all up to 20 somethings and said they flunked multiple times or some shit as a throw-away line and then never brought it up again. They could probabaly get away with that too.

There's a ton of other stuff in here too if you poke around. Also a lot of comments the mods removed too quickly for removeddit to catch.

Edit: The mods removed a ton of comments on of the thread so a lot of the stuff is showing up on removeddit now.

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